Tenants Together (Scotland) SHR Liaison Group - minutes - 29 April 2025

Updated

30 April 2025

TTS Attendees  

Shona Gorman (SG), John Duffy (JD), Margaret Dymond (MDy), Scott MacLeod (SM), Liz Richardson (LR) 

SHR Attendees 

Helen Trouten Torres (HTT – Chair), Marieke Dwarshuis (MDw), Kelda McMichael, Caroline Cameron-Russell, Linda McKenna (items 1-4 only) 

Apologies

June Anderson (JA) 

1.  Welcome and Introductions  

HTT welcomed all to the meeting, her first as Chair. HTT outlined that as Chair her aim is to support and further tenant engagement and to ensure TTS feel involved in the decision-making process at SHR. HTT added that she welcomes comments and queries from group members out with meetings and it was confirmed that any communication would be fed to HTT through SG as Group Coordinator.  

2.  Declarations of Interest 

MDy - TPAS Board member  

SM – Albyn Housing Association Board member  

SG – Link Housing Association & Link Group Board member  

3.  Minutes of previous meeting (29 October 2024)  

The minutes of the previous meeting were agreed following the correction of a small typing error. Post meeting note: Final Minutes are now available on the SHR website. 

4.  Corporate Parenting and UN Convention on the Rights of the Child Presentation  

LM gave a presentation that outlined the requirements placed on SHR regarding corporate parenting and the UNCRC; SHR’s approach to meeting the duties and the next steps. LM had provided a briefing document to group members in advance. 

LM asked for input on the following: 

  • Do TTS have any suggestions on how to engage children and young people in SHR work to implement these requirements? 

  • Had TTS had any success in encouraging tenants under 18 to engage on tenant issues? 

  • Do TTS have suggestions on the issues that SHR may want to consider in relation to Corporate Parenting and Children’s Rights? 

LR advised of multiple organisations that she was aware of in Highland that worked with children and young people. (post meeting note – LR passed the details of the organisations on to SHR) And commented that a young person from Highland had been nominated for a TPAS award for their work in getting young people involved in housing related matters in Fort William. She also noted that the Youth Parliament was also a good example of the ways in which interactions with young people can be successful. 

SM advised that Albyn held a road show in remote areas to attract a younger voice, doing a SWOT (strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats) analysis. This found that young people live very busy lives and so times for engagement would need to work around this, often meaning evening engagement.  

LR asked how SHR will monitor compliance on these matters? LM advised that this was not the role of SHR, and that the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland has the power to intervene in legal proceedings or to bring proceedings in its name on a range of different children’s rights issues. Case law would determine much of this, but that only one piece of case law is currently in existence, and this relates to the criminal justice sector. She noted that currently Local Authorities are listed under the UNCRC (Incorporation) (Scotland) Act 2024 and had been since 2014 under the Children and Young People (Scotland) Act 2014, but RSLs are not. She noted that some landlords are looking ahead and seeking legal advice on application; and that this was useful but stressed that for RSLs the full extent of the implications are still unclear. SHR is awaiting more clarity on this. LM also noted that for SHR, implementation of the legislation will be challenging because SHR do not provide direct services to children and young people. LM added there are already good resources available for landlords such as child rights impact assessment tools, which means they can look at policies through a UNCRC lens. 

SG added that in relation to TTS, recently younger people have started to show an interest in membership, but not 18 or younger. TTS have not focused on recruiting young people yet but would like to consider the possibility in future. SG added that perhaps liaising with Youth Parliament could be a starting point. 

The group also discussed that young people did not have to be a named tenant to get involved in housing issues. Many young people live within social housing, and they are the future of social housing. 

5.  Engagement plans and the outcomes of the SHR annual regulatory risk assessment  

KM presented on the recent publication of the new engagement plans for all social landlords; and the summary of the outcomes of SHR’s annual regulatory risk assessment. Both were published on 31 March.  

Engagement Plans set out SHR’s requirements of each landlord and how SHR will engage with them. So, the slideshow provided an overview of the type of issues SHR are engaging with social landlords about; and also explained that the summary report sets out the main risks affecting all social landlords. It highlights that systemic failure is now impacting the delivery of homelessness services in some areas of Scotland. It also describes heightened risks around developing new homes and maintaining existing homes.  The report further sets out the challenges for social landlords in keeping rents affordable for tenants whilst dealing with rising costs. 

LR enquired re: City of Edinburgh suspending allocations other than homeless applicants, the group were interested to know if tenants had been consulted on this. KM advised that she would query this with the portfolio lead and come back to the Group with a response. 

Action TTS001 – KM to provide more information on Edinburgh decision to suspend allocations, particularly related to tenant consultation. 

SM enquired about the rise in landlords who we are engaging with regarding service quality; and asked what this related to. 

Action TTS002 – KM to provide more information on reasons for service quality engagement within RSLs rising. 

The group enquired as to what considerations would be given to Awaab’s law when looking at performance related to damp and/or mould in the future. CCR advised that there would be some time taken to consider the first ARC returns (due end of May 2026) on the new damp and/or mould indicators, their usefulness and any enhancements/alterations required. 

6.  Tenants Together (Scotland) Update 

SG updated on the following: 

  • The committee application process is being refined and some applicants had been interviewed – there had been a number of applications from individual members, and with only 5 places available on the committee for this type of membership, it was important to understand if there may be opportunities for these applicants to meet the criteria to apply for group membership. 

  • The TTS AGM will be held Saturday 7 June online; communications are being sent as per the constitution. 

  • SG, SM and Colin Stewart attended the recent CIH conference, both as main speakers and panel members. 

  • TTS will speak at the SFHA conference in June. TTS continue to build a good relationship with SFHA. 

  • Looking at strengthening membership of the Liaison Group, Gordon Saunders has expressed interest in rejoining and TTS will be looking to bring further members into the group following their AGM. TTS is keen to continue with their close relationship with SHR and want to have a representative group to do so. 

  • Social media is still being developed, SG noted that this requires members with the right technical ability and noted that SM has been leading on this alongside another TTS member, but this is still an area TTS would like to strengthen moving forward. During rebranding, TIS had input into the TTS communications strategy and noted social media as a focus. 

TTS members asked how the challenging financial climate had affected repairs or stock maintenance; and what is the effect on RSL debt and rent arrears? KM advised that rent arrears figures for 2024/25 would not be available until ARC submissions had been submitted and analysed so there would be no clear information on this until the summer. In terms of affordability, KM noted that the 2024 National Panel report had indicated there was an increase in concerns around affordability, and that questions on affordability had been included in the 2025 survey. The report on this will be published in early summer. She also noted that SHR’s 2023/24 analysis of RSLs audited financial statements found that overall, liquidity remained strong and most RSLs have successfully raised the necessary funds to invest in both new and existing homes. But it also found that the weaker financial performance and record investment levels impacted RSLs’ cash and cash equivalents which have decreased for a third year in a row to £685 million. Planned and reactive maintenance expenditure rose, with planned increasing by 3.88% to £176.03 million and reactive increasing by 15.26% to £295.51 million. Investment in new and existing homes continued with net housing assets up by 5.50% to £16.52 billion. 

SM further asked if given the current financial climate, has there been any notable issues with covenant headroom for RSLs? KM advised that she would refer this question to finance colleagues and get back to the group. 

Action TTS003 – KM to enquire with Finance colleagues regarding covenant headroom trends 

TTS members also asked that with the need to re-let properties as quickly as possible; were SHR aware of any delays caused by utility companies taking a long time to complete their work? And were such delays elongating the time to re-let homes? KM explained that SHR’s recent empty homes analysis asked each RSL/LA to return information on their empty homes as of 28 February 2025. Findings were that there were issues with Utility Companies, and this had resulted in some properties sitting empty for months. We found there were common themes relating to meter resets, exchanging meters and clearing debt on meters. She noted that in SHR’s annual ARC return, these figures are currently counted within re-let times; and SHR had considered this issue during the consultation exercise in late 2024, but many landlords indicated that this removed “lobbying” opportunities due to the overall impact such issues have on re-let figures.  

The group also discussed communal heating systems, KM advised she had recently been made aware of a helpline & service available for households or organisations who used such systems; and noted she could send on some information. 

Action TTS004 – KM to send on communal heating system information leaflet from Consumer Scotland. 

The meeting also discussed landlord communications with tenants around gas servicing and electrical inspections and that these could be improved. 

In advance of the meeting, KM provided a briefing note to the group on the findings of the Grenfell Tower Inquiry Phase 2 Report and the Social Housing (Regulation) Act 2023. The group asked for a presentation on this; and the impact on the sector, tenants and SHR at a future meeting. It was agreed that staff leading on this work would attend the next meeting on 19 August to discuss. KM added that SHR will ask landlords to complete a cladding survey to bolster Stock Quality Data and to allow SHR to better understand the scope of buildings potentially affected by flammable cladding across Scotland. SHR intend for this to go out mid-May with responses by mid-June.  

Action TTS005 – KM to arrange a presentation on cladding for the 19 August meeting.  

On Health & Safety more widely, SG advised that TTS are considering re-forming a working group on Health & Safety, and this would be put to members for agreement.  HTT asked about the recent building safety and maintenance consultation meeting held by the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee and if TTS members had been in attendance. SG said she had not yet received feedback on this meeting. 

7.  Chair Updates  

HTT gave some background on her interest in both becoming an SHR Board member and Chair of the TTS SHR Liaison Group. Helen introduced an ice breaker game to discuss how SHR can promote tenant engagement and joint working with the group and TTS more widely.  

HTT provided updates on the SHR Board recruitment - the interviews have been completed, and recommendations are expected to go up to Scottish Ministers at the start of May.  SHR expect a decision by early June with the start date 1 July 2025. SHR will look to get the new SHR Chair to meet with the Group as soon as diaries allow.    

Regarding the Parliamentary Committee scrutiny on SHR, HTT noted that the committee has written to SHR in March following the evidence sessions in December. SHR are in the process of drafting a response and this will be considered by the Board in May.  SHR will issue this to the Committee shortly after that.    

HTT noted that since the group last met there have been two Board meetings, these were held on 25 February and 1 April. Minutes of SHR Board Meetings are available on the SHR website. She provided an overview of these meetings for the group and noted that a guest speaker presentation from TIS’ Illene Campbell in April had been particularly interesting from a tenant engagement perspective.  

8.  SHR Operational Plan  

KM updated that SHR's operational plan is due to be published at the end of May, but she provided some headlines to the group. She noted the plan flows from the priorities set out in SHR's 2024-27 Strategy but also reflects the reality of the current financial pressures and that savings need to be delivered to achieve a balanced budget for 2025/26; as well as recognising SHR's current staffing resource levels.   

Given this, the operating plan sets out core tasks and activities; and aims to allow SHR to flex its operational approach to fit with our current capacity, allowing SHR to be agile and responsive to unforeseen issues or pieces of work which may emerge during the year; and to identify reserve tasks, which SHR may decide to promote into the operating plan if resources allow during the year. 

This means SHR have had to plan to scale back on some activities. SHR will have limited ability to complete thematic studies and no RSL treasury management reviews will take place during 2025/26. Over the next few months, SHR Staff and Board will also meet to consider how SHR shape the planned approach to the annual regulatory risk assessment for 2025/26. 

KM stressed however, that tenant engagement remains a key priority for SHR.  

9. Tenant Advisors, National Panel and Thematics  

KM noted that SHR had recently held an online ‘Lessons Learned’ Focus Group with Tenant Advisors (TAs) which offered the opportunity to reflect on their experience as a TA. The feedback that received was overwhelmingly positive and will help to inform SHR proposals for the TA programme moving forward. She also noted that all 8 TAs had accepted an offer to extend their appointment term for a further year to March 31, 2026.  In addition, 3 new TAs have agreed to join the programme from SHR’s reserve list, bringing the total number of TAs to 11.  An induction session will be held for the new TAs in May, with a further training session on equalities in June. KM also noted that the programme of exercises for the current year is under development but was to commence with an extension of the exercise on the review of Landlord websites for accessibility of documents.   

SHR’s contractor, Engage, is currently finalising the 2025 National Panel Report which will be published in the summer.  This will include the results of the annual National Panel survey of almost 500 Panel members; and the results of the programme of work including more in-depth interviews / discussions. Discussions have focussed on the experiences of homelessness services; Gypsy / Travellers site experiences and communication preferences. 

KM acknowledged that the news around resources may be disappointing, but SHR wanted to seek group member’s views on what they would like SHR to consider for future work with the Panel and Advisors and for a reserve list for Thematics. TTS members expressed an interest in rent affordability and consultation; Human Rights and Net Zero. SG added that members may have more ideas to feed in after the AGM on 7 June 2025. 

10.  SHR Updates 

  • At the last meeting the Serious Concern findings at Fife Council was discussed. Following this, SHR recently also found serious failings in both of Perth & Kinross Council’s Gypsy/Traveller sites. These were discovered after residents raised concerns and SHR published findings on 21 March. It was found that neither site had met obligations under the Scottish Social Housing Charter nor meet Scottish Government’s Minimum Site Standards. The Council is engaging with the Regulator and is working constructively to address the residents’ concerns and deliver the necessary improvements.  

  • SHR wrote to all landlords on 14 February to request a return on empty homes/voids as at 28 February 2025. On 1 April SHR published a report on the high-level empty homes analysis. This analysis and the full dataset of information submitted by landlords is available on the website. 

  • On 10 April SHR announced a programme of visits to social landlords to discuss their Annual Assurance Statements. SHR will visit 10 landlords in May to understand their approach to preparing their Statement and how they have assured themselves about compliance with regulatory requirements and Standards. The visits will have a particular focus on how the landlords have assured themselves about compliance with their tenant and resident safety duties. For RSLs, the visits will also focus on their approach to monitoring and reporting on compliance with their financial covenants. 

  • On 7 March SHR published an analysis of RSLs finances. The report outlined that RSLs were operating in tough economic and operating conditions in 23/24 and most had to deal with a range of financial pressures. 

  • SHR wrote to landlords on 11 March with advice on preparing Annual Assurance Statements for 2025. The letter pointed to the February 2024 revised guidance and SFHA toolkit, and detailed that this year SHR again asks landlord to provide specific assurance around tenant and resident safety.  

  • In late March, a current SHR Board member was appointed as Deputy Chair, and he took up that role as of 1 April. The previous Deputy (Andrew Watson) is one of the outgoing Board members who will finish their final term in the summer.  

  • On 28 March SHR published its second British Sign Language (BSL) Plan following consultation earlier in the year. The plan sets out what SHR will do to support and promote BSL during 2025-2031. SHR will continue to look for ways to make the information we publish more accessible for BSL users, to have BSL/English interpreters available for meetings, and to raise awareness amongst its staff of BSL. SHR will also follow up on the September 2024 thematic inquiry into BSL users’ access to social landlords’ housing and homelessness services as part of the plan. 

  • On 3 April SHR updated the 2025/26 Charter Technical Guidance for social landlords completing their Annual Return on the Scottish Social Housing Charter (ARC). This guidance applies from 1 April 2025.  

11.  Any other business 

HTT noted this was the first liaison group meeting using Teams (previously zoom). She asked for feedback on using Teams for online meetings. The group said they had no issues with continuing to trial Teams and SG suggested asking SM for specific feedback offline as he had had some connection issues during the meeting, although she thought these were likely unrelated to Teams. KM agreed to do so.  

Action TTS006 – KM to enquire with SM re use of Teams 

HTT asked for feedback on providing briefing paper(s) in advance on topics for discussion where this was possible. The group agreed that this had been very useful.  

12.  Date of next meeting 

Date of next meeting – Tuesday 19 August 2025 at 10am online 

HTT reminded the group that the following meeting will be in person on 11 November at SHR offices.